Ok...well the weather sucks...I've been trapped inside by the 5 foot drifts of snow piled against my front door.
I am broke, damn economy.
I am like a over sugared 8 year old.....I WANT TO GO PLAY OUTSIDE!!
And since I can't right now, I can do the almost next best thing. I can cruise the internet, most of my free time has been spent reading and watching paintball related stuff on various forums and Youtube..
I have come to a couple of thoughts that won't leave my head, so I am gonna give them to the interwebs to try and quiet my head. One of the big ones is compare and contrast of differing types of paintball play.
One of the things you need to know is the kind of paintball I like to play. My preferred game is Woodsball or Scenarios. I am in general not a fan of Speedball and Arena games.
There are some major differences in Woodsball and Speedball play...most notably scale. Woodsball is played outside (although not always in the woods...can also be urban, desert, scrub...whatever ya got) whereas Speedball is played around here indoors mostly (although not exclusively)on small level fields that are generally set up to remove the terrain from play.
What does that mean?
Well....for example...in a Woodsball game, the terrain is a 'player'. Sometimes ya have to fight uphill. There are natural obstacles like streams and ditches, not to mention the camouflage opportunities.
There are locations that confer a significant advantage to the players that hold them, such as fortifications and strongholds.
In Speedball, the terrain has been removed as a 'player'. This is done by making the playing field smaller (usually around 50 x 60 meters) and placing the obstacles (called bunkers) in a symmetrically mirrored layout.
What this does is distills the game down, and makes the play much faster pace.(a typical Speedball game last under a minute...whereas Scenarios can last for days...) It basically becomes a concentrated firefight. It artificially limits the front of the battle to a straight at the enemy assault. One of the most basic tactics is area denial by 'ropes' of paint...shooting high volumes of paint in a lane to further limit the choices of angles available to your opponents. This has led to the development of faster and faster markers, some with the ability to fire in excess of 20 balls per second(BPS).
That is NOT to say there are no tactics in Speedball...there are, just that the options are fairly limited and that most of the decisions revolve around gunfights, snap shooting and moving forward into withering fire.
I prefer the wide open play of the outside games in the green, and the type of play there. Where most times if you do come upon a dug in position, you don't have to run straight at it. Flanks are available, and a core of woodsball play. A good axiom for woodsball is "There is nothing so big and bad, that it can't be walked around."
What about cross overs? Do speedballers play woodsball and vice versa? Yes.
Very few paintball players are purist, playing only one or the other. You will see speedballers out in the woods, where they can be very effective players, if used properly by their teams.
All that being said...do I play Speedball? Answer....not if I have a choice. However I have gone to speedball parks when there are no other options available...which is pretty much from Nov to March around here.
While when I go to speedball games, I am a distinct disadvantage due to the fact my kit is based around a mil-sim(Military simulation) semi automatic marker and larger gear pack-out. That doesn't mean I can't play and contribute to the fun, while having a little myself. There are even lessons to learn, as the skills honed in speedball can be used on the woodsball field.
As evidence I submit the following....
If nothing else, I got to practice suppressive fire and being a base for a 'T' assault. I also had a bit'o fun and got to get dirty.
A look into the mind of the Monster.
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26.1.11
L5 Dev Diary 2.
Here is a random look at spacesuit construction and set building from pre-production.
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8.1.11
A rant on Paintball...
I play Paintball.
Well, that is a lil vague as paintball can mean a lot of things.
I don't play Speedball, Hyperball, or Airball.
I play Woodsball.
So does my Wife....
So do a lot of my friends...here is a snap of my buddy Big Mike.
Hell, we even had a team for a while...
I present that just so you understand that I have some experience at Paintball.
I love playing Woodsball, it is a great way to meet new folks that already share an interest and I have never played a game where the other players were as invested in your success as a player more.
This Rant will not be about Woodsball vs Speedball...or what is real Paintball...although I have a pretty strong opinion on that.
This Rant will be on a Paintball Field practice called Field Paint Only(FPO) vs Bring Your Own Paint(BYOP).
Disclaimer: While I am an experienced player, I am not a professional. Nor am I a Field Operator or Owner.
I am not sponsored by, nor do I have any ties to any Paintball Field operation.
EDIT March 17 2011>> I should note that since I wrote this I have become associated with a Field Operator.
I am now a member of Team Phalanx, sponsored by Fox paintball.
I dislike FPO. A lot. It has always bothered me. I understand that a lot of fields do it to insure they make money, and I am not against field owners/operators making money. FPO definitely helps their profit margins, but to me it has always seemed dishonest.
Let me try and explain that.
I go to a Field to play...There is a Gate or Entry Fee.
This is what it will cost me to use their field, to help cover the cost of building, maintaining the field. Staffing it, insuring it, keeping the lights on and the toilets flushing. That should reflect how elaborate the field is to me. If it is a cow pasture on your uncle's back 40... an Entry Fee of 10-15 dollars makes sense.
If it is 14 acres of awesome, with tons of purpose built structures, and there are plenty of Refs...40-50 dollars makes sense.
But here is where the FPO issue comes up...a lot of Fields REQUIRE me to use their paint. Paint that is at a premium price.
To me this is , as I said previously, dishonest.
I am basically paying a second Entry Fee...and possibly a Fee to continue playing.
Does that make sense? I pay to get access to your field...to have the right to come play on your land, but then you charge me again to play the game.
If that income(from me buying your paint) is what you need to do to cover your cost...to break even or make a profit off me playing on your field...charge me that at the gate. Don't tell me it cost $15 to play on your field, then require me to buy a $80 case of paint. See...it smacks of bait and switch to me.
Now, before anyone starts blasting me in the comments that this is "just how it is" or that "Fields need to make their money"...I GET THAT...I do.
I want Fields to make money...then there are Fields to play on. I want them to make a lot of money, so that hopefully they can reinvest it into making the Field even more awesome.
My issues is that FPO seems underhanded to me.
Let me try this another way...
I started playing with rental gear way back in the day, it did the job of getting me hooked on Paintball. I went out and spent a fair amount of coin getting my own gear. I have spent the last couple of years tuning that gear to better fit the way I play...to enhance my fun. Then I go to a field that says I have to use THEIR gear.
Maybe not EXACTLY the same...but to me it kinda is.
I use a Tippmann A-5 marker with a Flatline barrel. The A-5 has never been a 'gentle' marker. It slams the hell out of paint when it fires. And the Flatline barrel is rough on paint, putting it under a lot of stress. This means I can't use a lot of paints without tons of chop. Especially Tourney grade paint, that has a thin shell. I need to use paint with a thicker shell in order to get consistent results. Something like DXS Frostbite, or IMPACT.... I know this after months of making paint soup with other balls. So than I go to a FPO field...and guess what? I can't get a thick shell paint...so basically I can't play with my marker set up. Or I can get it, but it will cost me 50% more that retail...so I play 50% less games. Which means I have 50% less fun...which means there is a 90% chance I am not going to go to that Field again.
Now I could just accept this, and either pony up the extra cash, or find a marker set up that works with all paint, or just quit my bitching. But that is the issue here....I have an option.
There are fields that let me use the paint I have found works best with my particular set-up. These fields allow me to bring my own gear. My own mask, marker and paint. They may not be as fancy, or have flushing toilets. They may not be as close to me, meaning a 45 min longer drive. But I get to play more, and play the way I want to play. They tell me how much it cost to use their fields...and that is how much it costs. Not that much plus $X for paint before I can play.
Let me show you some differences.
Because it has an impact on planning, here is an overview of my gear.
I use a A-5 with Flatline barrel, 3000 lbs HPA, and a basic loadout of 750 balls. On a good day of play, I will use a case of paint.
Fox River Paintball:
Entry Fee: $30 and includes all day air fills.
Paint prices: Range from $50 to $70 for full cases in varied grades.
FPO/BYOP?: BYOP
Distance and Drivetime: ~50 miles and 1.25 hours
Cost for a day of play for me( Entry and a case of Paint): $80 if I use their paint, $30 if I BYOP
CPX
Entry Fee: $18 and includes all day air fills.
Paint prices: Only one paint..cost is $90 per case
FPO/BYOP?: FPO
Distance and Drivetime: ~70 miles and 1.5 hours
Cost for a day of play for me( Entry and a case of Paint): $108, no option.
Let's say that travel time is moot.
Now take that cost times 2...recall my Wife also plays.
FOX: $60-160
CPX: $216
Where would you go?
Granted, CPX has a more elaborate field set up with more structures.
CPX FIELD pictures:
FOX FIELD pictures:
But is having a fancier field worth less play and more money?
No.
Well, that is a lil vague as paintball can mean a lot of things.
I don't play Speedball, Hyperball, or Airball.
I play Woodsball.
So does my Wife....
So do a lot of my friends...here is a snap of my buddy Big Mike.
Hell, we even had a team for a while...
I present that just so you understand that I have some experience at Paintball.
I love playing Woodsball, it is a great way to meet new folks that already share an interest and I have never played a game where the other players were as invested in your success as a player more.
This Rant will not be about Woodsball vs Speedball...or what is real Paintball...although I have a pretty strong opinion on that.
This Rant will be on a Paintball Field practice called Field Paint Only(FPO) vs Bring Your Own Paint(BYOP).
Disclaimer: While I am an experienced player, I am not a professional. Nor am I a Field Operator or Owner.
I am not sponsored by, nor do I have any ties to any Paintball Field operation.
EDIT March 17 2011>> I should note that since I wrote this I have become associated with a Field Operator.
I am now a member of Team Phalanx, sponsored by Fox paintball.
I dislike FPO. A lot. It has always bothered me. I understand that a lot of fields do it to insure they make money, and I am not against field owners/operators making money. FPO definitely helps their profit margins, but to me it has always seemed dishonest.
Let me try and explain that.
I go to a Field to play...There is a Gate or Entry Fee.
This is what it will cost me to use their field, to help cover the cost of building, maintaining the field. Staffing it, insuring it, keeping the lights on and the toilets flushing. That should reflect how elaborate the field is to me. If it is a cow pasture on your uncle's back 40... an Entry Fee of 10-15 dollars makes sense.
If it is 14 acres of awesome, with tons of purpose built structures, and there are plenty of Refs...40-50 dollars makes sense.
But here is where the FPO issue comes up...a lot of Fields REQUIRE me to use their paint. Paint that is at a premium price.
To me this is , as I said previously, dishonest.
I am basically paying a second Entry Fee...and possibly a Fee to continue playing.
Does that make sense? I pay to get access to your field...to have the right to come play on your land, but then you charge me again to play the game.
If that income(from me buying your paint) is what you need to do to cover your cost...to break even or make a profit off me playing on your field...charge me that at the gate. Don't tell me it cost $15 to play on your field, then require me to buy a $80 case of paint. See...it smacks of bait and switch to me.
Now, before anyone starts blasting me in the comments that this is "just how it is" or that "Fields need to make their money"...I GET THAT...I do.
I want Fields to make money...then there are Fields to play on. I want them to make a lot of money, so that hopefully they can reinvest it into making the Field even more awesome.
My issues is that FPO seems underhanded to me.
Let me try this another way...
I started playing with rental gear way back in the day, it did the job of getting me hooked on Paintball. I went out and spent a fair amount of coin getting my own gear. I have spent the last couple of years tuning that gear to better fit the way I play...to enhance my fun. Then I go to a field that says I have to use THEIR gear.
Maybe not EXACTLY the same...but to me it kinda is.
I use a Tippmann A-5 marker with a Flatline barrel. The A-5 has never been a 'gentle' marker. It slams the hell out of paint when it fires. And the Flatline barrel is rough on paint, putting it under a lot of stress. This means I can't use a lot of paints without tons of chop. Especially Tourney grade paint, that has a thin shell. I need to use paint with a thicker shell in order to get consistent results. Something like DXS Frostbite, or IMPACT.... I know this after months of making paint soup with other balls. So than I go to a FPO field...and guess what? I can't get a thick shell paint...so basically I can't play with my marker set up. Or I can get it, but it will cost me 50% more that retail...so I play 50% less games. Which means I have 50% less fun...which means there is a 90% chance I am not going to go to that Field again.
Now I could just accept this, and either pony up the extra cash, or find a marker set up that works with all paint, or just quit my bitching. But that is the issue here....I have an option.
There are fields that let me use the paint I have found works best with my particular set-up. These fields allow me to bring my own gear. My own mask, marker and paint. They may not be as fancy, or have flushing toilets. They may not be as close to me, meaning a 45 min longer drive. But I get to play more, and play the way I want to play. They tell me how much it cost to use their fields...and that is how much it costs. Not that much plus $X for paint before I can play.
Let me show you some differences.
Because it has an impact on planning, here is an overview of my gear.
I use a A-5 with Flatline barrel, 3000 lbs HPA, and a basic loadout of 750 balls. On a good day of play, I will use a case of paint.
Fox River Paintball:
Entry Fee: $30 and includes all day air fills.
Paint prices: Range from $50 to $70 for full cases in varied grades.
FPO/BYOP?: BYOP
Distance and Drivetime: ~50 miles and 1.25 hours
Cost for a day of play for me( Entry and a case of Paint): $80 if I use their paint, $30 if I BYOP
CPX
Entry Fee: $18 and includes all day air fills.
Paint prices: Only one paint..cost is $90 per case
FPO/BYOP?: FPO
Distance and Drivetime: ~70 miles and 1.5 hours
Cost for a day of play for me( Entry and a case of Paint): $108, no option.
Let's say that travel time is moot.
Now take that cost times 2...recall my Wife also plays.
FOX: $60-160
CPX: $216
Where would you go?
Granted, CPX has a more elaborate field set up with more structures.
CPX FIELD pictures:
FOX FIELD pictures:
But is having a fancier field worth less play and more money?
No.
27.12.10
L5 Production Blog: Day 2
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